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Senate panel votes 8-5 to hold Fauci in contempt after he invoked the Fifth 111 times

The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee voted Thursday morning to hold Dr. Anthony Fauci in contempt of Congress, advancing a resolution that now heads to the Department of Justice for potential prosecution. The 8-5 party-line vote came after Fauci invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination 111 times during a hearing the previous week, despite holding a sweeping presidential pardon that Republicans say eliminated any legitimate basis for his silence.

Chairman Rand Paul (R-KY) wasted no time. He announced the committee would send the contempt referral directly to the DOJ the following day, bypassing the slower route of a full Senate floor vote.

The resolution invokes sections 102 and 104 of the Revised Statutes, 2 U.S.C. 192 and 194, and directs the President of the Senate to certify the committee’s report to the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia. If convicted, Fauci could face up to one year in prison and a $1,000 fine, the New York Post reported.

A pardon that should have compelled answers

The legal heart of this fight is straightforward. Former President Joe Biden issued Fauci a “Full and Unconditional Pardon” dated January 19, 2025, Biden’s last full day in office. The pardon covered “any offenses against the United States which he may have committed or taken part in” from January 1, 2014 through the date of the pardon, encompassing his entire tenure as NIAID Director, his role on the White House Coronavirus Task Force and COVID-19 Response Team, and his service as Chief Medical Advisor to the President.

Republicans have characterized it as an “autopen” pardon, a reference to the mechanical signature device, and argue it created a paradox that Fauci tried to exploit. The Fifth Amendment protects against compelled self-incrimination. But a pardon eliminates the risk of federal prosecution. If the pardon is valid, the reasoning goes, Fauci faced no criminal jeopardy and therefore had no legitimate basis to refuse questioning.

Paul framed the vote in exactly those terms. As the Washington Examiner reported, he told the committee before the vote:

“We are voting on whether a witness who has received the benefit of a sweeping federal pardon can be ordered by this committee to answer questions and then defy that order without consequence.”

Paul also noted that the committee chairman, himself, had already ruled Fauci’s assertion of privilege unsupported in light of both the pardon and the testimony Fauci voluntarily offered in his opening statement. Fauci spoke freely to deliver prepared remarks, then refused to answer a single question that followed.

Paul laid out the sequence plainly, as the New York Post quoted him: “The chair ruled that Dr. Fauci’s assertion of the Fifth Amendment privilege was unsupported in light of the pardon and the testimony he offered in his opening statement. The chair directed Anthony Fauci to answer. He refused again.”

111 refusals, including the color of his tie

The July 29 hearing produced a remarkable spectacle. Fauci delivered an opening statement, then invoked the Fifth Amendment more than 100 times, 111 times by Paul’s count, declining to answer any substantive question lawmakers put to him. The New York Post reported that Fauci even refused to answer what color his tie was.

That level of blanket refusal, from a witness who had just spoken voluntarily in his opening statement and who held a pardon covering the entire relevant period, struck committee Republicans as an act of defiance rather than a legitimate exercise of constitutional rights.

Paul described Fauci’s conduct in blunt terms: “Fauci faced no risk of federal prosecution. All he had to do was tell the truth. More than 100 times, though, he refused.”

Bypassing the Senate floor

The procedural path Paul chose is notable. Rather than bring the contempt resolution to the full Senate for a vote, a process that could take weeks and invite procedural delays, the resolution directs the committee’s report straight to the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia. That official, according to the New York Post, is Jeanine Pirro.

Paul explained the rationale for the shortcut: “This way, we don’t sit a month waiting to determine whether or not we bring it to the Senate floor.”

The resolution’s operative text is direct. It instructs that Fauci “be proceeded against in the manner and form provided by law” for his “refusal… to answer questions pertinent to the subject under inquiry.” Whether the DOJ acts on the referral remains an open question. The committee has done its part.

Fauci’s phone now in investigators’ hands

The contempt vote was not the only development Thursday. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI), who chairs the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, disclosed that his panel had obtained a copy of Fauci’s phone from the Department of Health and Human Services.

Fox News reported Johnson’s statement:

“The Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations has obtained a copy of Dr. Fauci’s phone from HHS. Hopefully, this device will address many of the questions he refused to answer at last week’s hearing.”

Johnson did not specify how the subcommittee obtained the device, whether HHS turned it over voluntarily or under compulsion, or what specific communications investigators expect to find. But the timing is pointed. If Fauci won’t talk, his phone might.

The phone acquisition adds another layer to an investigation that has already produced troubling revelations. Fauci’s own diary entries have shown he privately estimated a far lower COVID death rate than he communicated to the public. Previously released committee documents, as National Review noted, revealed that Fauci privately gave more credence to the lab-leak hypothesis than he ever acknowledged publicly at the start of the pandemic.

The pattern behind the silence

Fauci’s refusal to answer questions fits a pattern that extends well beyond a single hearing. For years, serious questions have surrounded his role in funding gain-of-function research, his public statements about the origins of COVID-19, and the gap between his private assessments and his public posture.

A CIA whistleblower told the Senate that Fauci deliberately steered intelligence agencies away from the lab-leak conclusion, an allegation that makes his refusal to answer committee questions all the more significant.

Rep. James Comer weighed in on the legal logic at the center of the dispute. Fox News quoted the congressman: “If former President Biden’s blanket autopen pardon is valid, then Dr. Fauci has no right to refuse to answer questions.”

That framing captures the bind Fauci has placed himself in. Either the pardon protects him, in which case he cannot incriminate himself and has no basis to invoke the Fifth, or the pardon does not protect him, which raises its own set of questions about what Biden’s last-day clemency actually accomplished.

Democrats called it a stunt

The five committee members who voted against the resolution, all Democrats, given the party-line outcome, characterized the proceedings as politically motivated, according to the New York Post’s reporting. No specific Democratic quotes from the vote appear in the available record, and no Democratic senator’s name is attached to a public rebuttal in the reporting reviewed.

That silence from the minority side is itself worth noting. When a former top government official invokes the Fifth 111 times while holding a blanket pardon, the usual defense, that Republicans are grandstanding, requires some explanation of what legitimate privilege Fauci was exercising. None has been offered publicly.

What comes next

The contempt referral now moves to the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia. Whether prosecution follows depends on decisions outside the committee’s control. Paul has signaled he intends no delay.

Several questions remain unanswered. What specific questions did Fauci refuse to address? What data sits on the phone Johnson’s subcommittee now holds? And will the DOJ treat this referral with the seriousness the committee clearly intends?

The committee vote was 8-5. The facts behind it are not close. A man who led the nation’s pandemic response, who received a pardon covering more than a decade of potential federal offenses, sat before the elected representatives of the people he served, and said nothing 111 times. If accountability means anything at all, the DOJ ought to have something to say about that.

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